Katrina Hodge is quite a woman. I'm not sure I've ever met anyone who has been trained to kill a man with her bare hands, but also to walk across a stage in a skimpy bikini without fear.
A beauty queen and soldier, she offers a highly practical professional tip - to the problem of misbehaving bikini bottoms, that is, not a combat technique.

'Hairspray,' she says. 'That's the secret. It's best to spray it on the bum cheeks and on the bikini bottoms, then they won't wrinkle and ride up.

Backstage at any beauty pageant, all the girls will be helping each other spray it on. The teamwork that goes on is incredible.' Who knew?

Katrina is a former Miss England, who back in 2008 interrupted her glittering Army career to take part in a beauty pageant.

A one-time corporal in the Royal Anglian Regiment, she had received a bravery commendation after wrestling two rifles from an insurgent in Iraq and punching him in the face when he tried to mount an attack.

Her quick response helped save the lives of five colleagues.

Obviously, the leap from the front line to Miss World (she competed in the 2009 contest, in South Africa) made headlines globally, winning her the nickname Combat Barbie and turning her, to her delight, into both a role model for military recruitment and female empowerment.

Today, Katrina works in financial services and lives in Brighton with her husband and their daughters, aged 11, and eight.

She tells me she fully planned to stay in the Army for her entire career, and notes that, now 36, she would have been heading to retirement had things worked out.

They did not.

'I had a hell of a time when I went back [after Miss World]. Guys, slot dana colleagues, had pictures of me behind their beds.
I was a laughing stock,' she reveals. While the Army supported her beauty queen ambitions she says: 'I feel they used me. They were happy for me to be their poster girl, but when it all became a problem, I was on my own.'

We will return to her Army career, but for now, suffice to say, it was shot to pieces.

With hindsight, does she think a military career is compatible with a beauty queen one? 'No,' she says, bluntly. 'At least it wasn't for me.'

There are plenty of subjects Katrina's unusual career trajectory qualifies her to speak about.
Today we cover sexism, misogyny, bullying, societal expectations and female body confidence.

But let's start with itsy-bitsy, but hugely problematic, bikinis. Last week, she was back in the news, embroiled in a debate about whether this year's Miss England contest should reintroduce the controversial swimsuit round.

Katrina - part of the last batch of contestants to be forced to wear it - can take credit for its demise.

She had vociferously campaigned against an obligatory swimwear round, arguing it was demeaning to women and stopped 'serious' women - 'lawyers, teachers, doctors, soldiers' - from taking part in celebrations of female poise, confidence and community spirit.

It is true that young women from those professions have now flocked to beauty pageants.

The 2019 Miss England was NHS medic Dr Bhasha Mukherjee. Last year's winner was aerospace engineering student Jessica Gagen, who seems to be on course to become an astronaut.

Yet far from applauding herself for services to the Sisterhood, Katrina is conflicted by her once militant stance.
She now, confusingly, backs the bikini - or at least a woman's choice to wear one in a beauty pageant - which seems to be a volte-face. 'At the time I did join the woke brigade because I thought it was the feminist thing to do,' she said. 'It's been reported that I now regret that.

That's not quite true. I think at the time, it was the right decision. There were elements that were degrading.

'I remember being at an event to launch Miss England bikinis where finalists were paraded out for show on the King's Road in Chelsea.

It wouldn't happen now, and it was demeaning. Police officers stopped the traffic and there were men in cars hooting. This wasn't what pageants are about. It was nothing to do with our charity work, or about giving us a platform. It was just about showing flesh.'

Fast-forward 14 years, though, what has changed?
'Everything. We're living in a different culture, one where people on Love Island become millionaires by parading around in bikinis - and no one judges them for it. But women who take part in pageants are still being called bad feminists. And I feel the issue has become really muddled.

'I don't think it's the swimwear that's the problem - it's more the way it's presented, when girls are taken out of the pageant environment, and out of context.

The pageant world has changed, too. It's no longer run by men, for men. In most pageants now, the audience is 80 per cent female. These are women cheering other women on - and celebrating all shapes and sizes of bodies.

'The key is choice, I think.
I still don't think the swimwear round should be something a woman HAS to take part in, but I also feel it can be empowering. It certainly was for me.'

Katrina's change of opinion is partly down to personal experience, too.

Although she has always been a part of the pageant world (she now organises one of her own), she hadn't competed for 12 years until she stepped back on to the catwalk last year. It was an eye opener, because she chose a contest that did have a swimwear round.

And the surprising twist?
Her body was much larger than it had been in her Miss England days, so even she expected to hate the experience. 'I weighed seven stone more,' she confides. 'And I was not body confident. I'm not sure I ever have been - I've always had to pluck up courage even to walk around the pool on holiday, regardless of what size I have been.

'But when I went back to competing, I had a completely different shaped body.

I'd had two children. I was wearing size 16/18 clothes, rather than a size six, which I was in my Miss England days. I think a lot of women lose themselves when they become mothers, and to a degree, I did. I was eating the same as I had been in my Army days, but without doing the three fitness sessions a day.'

She says her weight gain was the cause of much distress - particularly when she, or others, compared her figure to the one that had won her Miss England.

'It was humiliating. I remember popping round to see a friend with my hair scraped back and little make-up and them having visitors. They introduced me by saying, '"This is the one we were telling you about, who used to be Miss England"'.
I felt terrible at times like that. You can't help but feel you've let yourself go. I didn't want to be in photos with my daughters, because I was ashamed of how I looked.' And yet she still looked gorgeous - just bigger.

She says being back on the catwalk, in a black one-piece, was utterly terrifying - until she became aware of the whoops of support from the audience.

'Honestly, I have never felt so supported, and it did wonders for my confidence.

I'd go as far as to say I felt more confident and empowered than I ever had done in my Miss England days.'